"Orthodox" novus ordo, from, you guessed it, some folks under damascus, and we don't need no missiology....
American Rumpo takes note of Klinger's visit to the Arab Millionaires clubhouse in Detroit, and refers to an invasion of the Novus Ordo into the AOA. Well, as it turns out there are Antiochian Orthodox who literally follow the Novus Ordo as their rite.
Metropolitan Paul Saliba of the Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia, New Zealand and the Philippines allows his churches in the Philippines to use a Novus Ordo Mass, right down to the store bought unleavened wafers. Read about this here, from which:
Antioch has established a large presence in the Philippines, under the authority of Met. Paul Saliba, which is distinguished by its use of the 1970 liturgical books of the Roman Catholic Church with standard Filipino liturgical abuses. It has been denounced by Constantinople as uncanonical and un-Orthodox and its chrismations judged invalid by the Greek Orthodox Metropolis in Southeast Asia.
+PHILIP is not related to +PAUL, by blood anyway.
I suppose the Novus Ordo could be Western Ritualized in a manner that is not that far from the Liturgy of St. Tikhon used by Antiochian Western Riters. But I get the sense that this is not what is happening in this case.
The more I read and hear of Orthodox missions throughout the world, the more it seems to be a collection of extraordinary dysfunction with regard to praxis, teaching, and hierarchical integrity - America included. Par for the course I suppose. But with regard to Asian and African missions, I can't help but wonder about the influence of self-proclaimed experts in "missiology." I once studied under missiologists at a Bible college that only trained prospective missionaries. It seems to me that no matter where one goes, Evangelicalism, the Mainlines, RCism, and Orthodoxy, missiologists follow intellectual models more influenced by 200 level anthropology courses than by their ecclesial group's traditions. An Orthodox friend of mine who lives in Africa got chided by an Orthodox priest with a graduate degree in missiology because of her forthright language concerning an indigenous Orthodox Church in her country that should never have been granted self-rule, and is awash in corruption, systemic institutional malaise, and serious problems of praxis (sometimes it seems the rule is this in the world of Orthodox mission areas - if you have "native Orthodox" and Orthodox from a "foreign ethnicity," power is given to whichever group is the most corrupt). She was being so naughty in her ethnocentricm. I have yet to meet more than three missiologists who did not flirt with a rather crass and unsophisticated syncretism. Missiologists are like church growth experts, the less you have around, the better off you are. They are also like church growth experts in another regard - with some of the social sciences, the intellectual culture is such that the "expert" is never encouraged to "get a life" and move beyond that undergrad-like confidence that this particular social science method is the lens through which to analyze virtually every human phenomenon. For all of the supposed intellectual diversity the social sciences pride themselves for, they tend to be methodologically parochial and totalizing in the manner in which adolescents usually argue. All that said, there is an anomaly to every paradigm - one of the anthropologist/linguist/missiologists who taught me, my first intellectual mentor, was a man whose intellect was of truly astounding and formidable depth and gravitas and charity. But there will never be another man like Tom Correll. Frankly, I sometimes wonder if my adult life has not been one big ethnography intuitively dedicated to Tom.

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I suppose the Novus Ordo could be Tikhon-ised but it would still be cold and perfunctory. The Mass these people lost 40+ years ago is clinical compared to the richness and warmth of the Orthodoxy liturgy, wouldn't they be better off with some good old sloe-gin drinking/dancing naked under the stars paganism than the shabby, sanitised ritual that passes for liturgy in the C of R nowadays? I know which I'd choose if it wasn't so cold in Scotland.
M,
My sentiments are the same as yours.
In the unreal hypothetical notion of "If I were not Orthodox (Byzantine Rite)", I think I would either move to South Wales and find one of the last two or three chapels that are not Calvinist but rather more or less free will Baptist, or, I would become a neo-pagan who danced naked on solstices. Tough call. I have no personal interest in Western liturgies. I find them to be sterile and lack the intimacies of both earth of heaven. But last I checked, I am not a bishop thus this is only what some call an opinion.
The only missiological writings I've encountered that were not more worthy of becoming compost than of reading are those by David Jacobus Bosch (memory eternal). Most, as you say, are a scourge.
Fascinating...
First the obvious must be stated: The Philippines is RC country and for them culturally speaking they are familiar with Novus Ordo.
That being said, to me the obvious problem here is that the Philippines now has an Orthodox Church which is basically just a less polished version of the RCC. I doubt that is likely to attract converts in droves (except those looking to move because they have problems with authority). While I tend to be supportive of the Western rites, I also tend to think that being faithful to our local (read Byzantine) tradition (without being dismissive of Western forms) is what is likely to allow us to capture the hearts and minds of our culture.
As for the "sterility" of Western liturgies, this is an outgrowth of continental monasticism which emphasized simplicity and silence as ways to combat the passions (typically termed "libido" in Western theology).
I like many aspects of traditional Western Christian forms. Especially Cistercian brewing traditions. I also have a fondness for rosaries, and prayer books that make sense. But I just don't go for their liturgies, whether BoCP, novus ordo, or Tridentine. That said, I am glad for the Western Riters, and I appreciate those who have the same aversions to Byzantine forms. God bless them in the WR. I would be perfectly happy to see another 500 or so ROCOR Benedictines in the world.
robert,
My former mentor was also a Kuhn disciple, and an old friend of Bosch's. You are right to so consider his work, methinks.
I too am very supportive of the ROCOR Benedictines. God grant them many years and many, many more monasteries.
Egad -- the Philippine Orthodox don't speak Greek, Russian, or Arabic either! What's next, shaving?
This utter disregard for culturally-conditioned externals introduced into the Church between late antiquity and the 19th Century is truly outrageous!
The utter disregard, is for order in the Church. An Orthodox bishop, even the ruling bishop of a Synod, does not have the right to disregard Church order and willy-nilly decide that x rite is now acceptable in the Church.
There are two Western Rites in use in the Orthodox Church, one of them recognized by two Synods with very different histories. If folks want a Western Rite, at the very least, go with one of those, preferably the St. Gregory. The novus ordo, with lay eucharistic ministers, happy clappy music, etc., has no place in the Orthodox Church. This has nothing to do with culture, it has to do with the question of what worship is right - Orthopraxis.
In that sense it occurs to me that the implementation of the novus ordo in the Orthodoxy is more egregious than it was in RCism. In the RCC, after the Mass of Paul VI was introduced, what we commonly refer to as abuses (for they do abuse a Christian sense of right praxis) were implemented in the majority of RC dioceses in the world in short order. Most bishops in the world knew full well what was going on and essentially approved of it, whether explicitly or implicitly. Thus the "abuses" of the novus ordo at least reflected the mind of the RCC during the 70s and 80s.
When one bishop in the Orthodox Church decides the novus ordo is approvable for Orthodox use (even if this is meant only for a transition period of a few years, as some hope), he is acting as a liturgical lone ranger, which is worse than even what happened in the RCC. Some neo-Caths like to talk about the "abuses" as if they were odd occasional things, but what we usually mean by said "abuses" was the norm for the NCC novus ordo -- it is amazing how relatively homogenized the rite is, worldwide.
Liturgical lone-rangerism is simply not an Orthodox way of doing things, nor is it a Catholic way of doing things. Thus my problem here is not one of anti-Catholicism.
The Orthodox Church has two Western rites, one based on the BoCP, one on the old Roman Rite. Saints of the Orthodox Church have defended the WR, and Synods have approved it. Why not stick with one of those rites?
What is the actual process of getting a rite or order of worship approved?
Are the current WR forms approved by everyone?
I just want to understand in what way what is going on here is wrong other than people don't like it; given that their bishop approves.
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AMM,
Byzantine rite is approved by anyone and should be performed according to your jurisdictions patterns.
I believe WR is only for new parishes which have a convert priest who has extensive experience (counted in years not months) living the rite in his former vocation. It is most generally used when a whole parish converts.
There are two major WR approved: St. Gregory and St. Tikhon. Some places in France I believe use the Gallican rite as well.
The most populous jurisdiction for WR is Antioch and you would need to speak to the Western Rite Vicariate. ROCOR also has some Western Rite churches and you'd need to speak to the local ROCOR bishop. Moscow also has theoretically approved at least one of the rites, but I don't believe they actually have any WR parishes. Outside of this, I'm not aware of any canonical Orthodox jurisdiction which has approved WR.
Couldn't find the internet account. Let me contribute a different view. One of our parishoners travels to the Phillipines back and forth helping in the conversion of three (?) Franciscan monasteries. I'll have to ask her about this, but knowing what she's said in the past, these folks have absolutely zero money. They took a vows of poverty long ago, so my friend and to a lesser extent our parish have made gifts of just about anything and everything Orthodox to help them. Most of them are young. We have worshipped with a few of the priests in the past and visited with them. I think it is fair to say that the Orthodox part of their formation is a work-in-process. I think folks who think that becoming Orthodox is a matter of turning off one light and turning on another... well... you know and I know it's never that simple. Folks who wish to judge another in the process of becoming Orthodox... well... I am uncomfortable with that. Give them a chance. It has literally been only a matter of months. What with formation and training, give them five years and see what happens then. For now, I'd tend to be dubious of the reliability that the observation reflects the intention. It may reflect present reality... but patience to see what happens as time and money allow might be a more charitable view.
FWIW, I am no fan of Norvus Ordo. But there are Orthodox liturgical scholars and priests whose works I've read offering that it would serve as a better basis for an Orthodox Western Rite. They're not talking about the desultory adaptations and downright "don't care what it looks like" drive-by piano-bar varieties that many of us have witnessed to the point of agreeing with the police tape over these scenes that reads: "Nothing to see here, keep on moving". It's a novel idea but with more support than you'd think... or I think I'd like.
Thirdly, WRite experience in most places suffers from small numbers, and it's youth. Serving a gathering of three WRite parishes in an ERite parish big enough to handle the conversion of a fourth group into the Church here in Maryland, I can offer that in this sort of setting... there is every bit as much beauty. But there's a long way between the cup and the lip... and WRite is still young enough that the promise is realized in few places.
Singing of the Psalms in WRite to me is far more beautiful than the FEDEX speed equivalent spoken in the Rite of St. John Chrysostom... but it takes a cathedral setting to make it sound right.Yes, this is Apples and Oranges... I don't want to get into a spitting match 'cause I converted FOR the ERite... only the WRite parish and priest were less initimidating as a place to start. Call me weak knees. As you say... if only we could pick and choose!!!! But then we'd of course not be Orthodox and lose everything in the process.
Well said, James.
npmccallum,
Byzantine rite is approved by anyone and should be performed according to your jurisdictions patterns.Yes of course, but what is the process of approving a completely new rite or order of worship for use? What in the case of the Philippines was done wrong?
Well, as much as I find the Novus Ordo to be highly uninteresting and uninspiring, I do believe that there is much that the Orthodox can do to redeem the Novus Ordo by restoring the riches and truths of ancient Christendom back into the Western Rite. The Orthodox have done a good job SO FAR with the Sarum, Tikhonite/BCP, and Gregorian/Latin liturgical uses, so why can't it one up the Romans yet again with our own Orthodoxified version of the Novus Ordo? The Novus Ordo is not Orthodox by default, but if the Gospel calls us to worship in spirit and truth, we can bring that warmth of the Holy Spirit into the Novus Ordo. Orthopraxis is possible for the Novus Ordo - we'd just have to do the right things by:-
i) encouraging and promoting chant within the liturgy, and also a chance for songwriters to write proper songs for a Novus Ordo Mass. If St. Romanos the Melodist could do it, there's definitely someone in today's world who would follow suit.
ii) Lay Eucharistic ministers have to go! The priest is sufficient enough to administer communion. More importantly, he's got to say more than just "body of Christ" and "blood of Christ". This is something from the Byzantine Rite that they should take and adapt into the West.
However, just as much as I say this, I'm not buying Western theology or anything and I'd do a lot to suit proper Orthodox theology when using the Novus Ordo.
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